Comments on: Social Action http://www.dryvetymeonlyne.com/2005/04/27/social-action/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=social-action Music, Life, & Culture Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:08:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: draven http://www.dryvetymeonlyne.com/2005/04/27/social-action/comment-page-1/#comment-6 draven Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:53:00 +0000 http://theliquidcell.com/dryvetymeonlyne/?p=19#comment-6 I keep thinking about how you would really like two of my online blogging friends, who I intriduced to each other for the same reason. http://www.ericisrad.com/ http://theoblogical.org/movtyp/ Both of which speak about Politics & Christianity a lot. I keep thinking about how you would really like two of my online blogging friends, who I intriduced to each other for the same reason.

http://www.ericisrad.com/
http://theoblogical.org/movtyp/

Both of which speak about Politics & Christianity a lot.

]]> By: provoked http://www.dryvetymeonlyne.com/2005/04/27/social-action/comment-page-1/#comment-5 provoked Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:17:00 +0000 http://theliquidcell.com/dryvetymeonlyne/?p=19#comment-5 I think I'm going to have to quit watching so much TV and start reading. Now I'm wanting to read his books. The qoute that struck me, mainly because i've been discussion patriotism elsewhere was this one: <B>Howard Zin:</B><I>But I believe the government is being treasonous, and the government is being unpatriotic when the government violates the fundamental rights of human beings. When the government invades another country, a country that has not attacked it, the country that's not threatened it, when our government invades another country and drops bombs and kills huge numbers of people, and then Americans have the guts to go to that country and bring people food and medicine or go to see what is going on as many Americans did when they went to Vietnam, I think these are the most patriotic Americans. And you know, if you define patriotism as obedience to the government, then you are, I think, following a kind of totalitarian principle, because that's the principle of a totalitarian state, that you do what the government tells you to do. And democracy means that the government is an instrument of the people. This is the Declaration of Independence. Governments are artificial entities set up in order to preserve the rights, equal right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness of people. When the government violates those rights, it is the duty of people to defy that government. That is patriotism.</I> The next thing I wonder is what can we do to change the system. To take Zinn's words to heart: <B>Howard Zinn:</B> <I>...a wake-up call to Americans to try to create a new political alternative to a political system that is really a one-party system, and it is quite corrupt.</I> I think I’m going to have to quit watching so much TV and start reading. Now I’m wanting to read his books.

The qoute that struck me, mainly because i’ve been discussion patriotism elsewhere was this one:

Howard Zin:But I believe the government is being treasonous, and the government is being unpatriotic when the government violates the fundamental rights of human beings. When the government invades another country, a country that has not attacked it, the country that’s not threatened it, when our government invades another country and drops bombs and kills huge numbers of people, and then Americans have the guts to go to that country and bring people food and medicine or go to see what is going on as many Americans did when they went to Vietnam, I think these are the most patriotic Americans. And you know, if you define patriotism as obedience to the government, then you are, I think, following a kind of totalitarian principle, because that’s the principle of a totalitarian state, that you do what the government tells you to do. And democracy means that the government is an instrument of the people. This is the Declaration of Independence. Governments are artificial entities set up in order to preserve the rights, equal right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness of people. When the government violates those rights, it is the duty of people to defy that government. That is patriotism.

The next thing I wonder is what can we do to change the system. To take Zinn’s words to heart:

Howard Zinn: …a wake-up call to Americans to try to create a new political alternative to a political system that is really a one-party system, and it is quite corrupt. ]]>